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		<title>Blame the Players Union&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Brant</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As more and more attention is being paid to the OTA&#8217;s the Saints were hoping the Bounty Gate drama would slowly drift away. However, as with any good scandal that just isn&#8217;t happening. Yesterday ESPN reported the following: The person confirmed the existence of the ledger to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Friday [...]</p><p><a href="http://gmenhq.com/2012/06/02/blame-the-players-union/">Blame the Players Union&#8230;.</a> - <a href="http://gmenhq.com">GMEN HQ</a> - <a href="http://gmenhq.com">GMEN HQ - A NY Giants Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As more and more attention is being paid to the OTA&#8217;s the Saints were hoping the Bounty Gate drama would slowly drift away. However, as with any good scandal that just isn&#8217;t happening. Yesterday ESPN reported the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>The person confirmed the existence of the ledger to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Friday night because the NFL has not publicly discussed it. Yahoo! Sports first reported that the NFL has the ledger, which describes $1,000 payments for &#8220;cart-offs,&#8221; or hits which left opponents needing help to the sideline. It noted $400 payments for &#8220;whacks,&#8221; or hard hits, and $100 deductions for mental errors.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have to admit I&#8217;m torn on this whole issue. Going out to cause injury to someone is not okay but on the same hand does anyone really believe that the added 1,000$ really made someone hit &#8220;harder&#8221; or &#8220;dirtier&#8221;? What is $1,000 on a four million dollar yearly salary? I truly believe that the players were not doing it for the extra cash. The motivation was internal and the cash only provided a materialistic value.</p>
<p>My real problem with all of this lies with the NFL Players Union. Look at one of their most recent quotes:</p>
<blockquote><p>NFL Players Association spokesman George Atallah says the union has not seen the ledger or any other evidence of player involvement in a &#8220;pay-to-injure&#8221; program, including the ledger.</p>
<p>&#8220;This supposed coach&#8217;s ledger, if it does exist, only proves that a fair due process was not afforded to the players,&#8221; Atallah told The Associated Press. &#8220;They were punished before they had the opportunity to review any of the supposed evidence against them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Due process? Basically the union is trying to have it&#8217;s cake and eat it too. You cannot claim your primary goal is to protect the players</p>
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<p>and then try and defend the players who engaged in Bounty Gate. No matter your opinion on this matter you have to take a critical look at the union and how they are trying to &#8220;protect&#8221; the players. The union enjoys blaming the NFL regarding concussions but now when the league tries to address a potentially bigger problem, the union claims due process was not followed! Interesting to say the least.</p>
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		<title>Chris Carter admits offering bounties</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Ellis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>ESPN NFL analyst and former Minnesota Vikings All-Pro receiver Cris Carter claims he placed &#8220;bounties&#8221; on opposing players. He says he did this as a form of protection and stated that he placed a bounty on Bill Romanowki to protect himself and other teammates. Carter stated, &#8220;I&#8217;m guilty of [placing bounties] &#8211; I mean, first [...]</p><p><a href="http://gmenhq.com/2012/05/09/chris-carter-admits-offering-bounties/">Chris Carter admits offering bounties</a> - <a href="http://gmenhq.com">GMEN HQ</a> - <a href="http://gmenhq.com">GMEN HQ - A NY Giants Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gmenhq.com/2012/05/09/chris-carter-admits-offering-bounties/carterc/" rel="attachment wp-att-10685"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10685" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/31/files/2012/05/CarterC.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="250" /></a>ESPN NFL analyst and former <a href="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings">Minnesota Vikings</a> All-Pro receiver Cris Carter claims he placed &#8220;bounties&#8221; on opposing players. He says he did this as a form of protection and stated that he placed a bounty on Bill Romanowki to protect himself and other teammates.</p>
<p>Carter stated, &#8220;I&#8217;m guilty of [placing bounties] &#8211; I mean, first time I&#8217;ve ever admitted it &#8211; but I put a bounty on guys before.&#8221; &#8220;I put bounties on guys. If a guy tries to take me out, a guy takes a cheap shot on me? I put a bounty on him right now!&#8221;</p>
<p>The NFL recently placed heavy penalties on numerous New Orleans management, coaches, and players when NFL Roger Goodell Commissioner found the team guilty of using a bounty program to injure opposing players.</p>
<p>Wednesday morning Carter appeared on ESPN SportsCenter to clarify his statement. He emphasized there was no intent to injure opponents and protection was the only intent. He stated, &#8220;The difference is people going out of their way to hurt a player. Hitting a spot that we as players know is off limits, like his knees. You&#8217;re not telling them to go out and get someone, you&#8217;re telling them to protect you, run down the field to protect their skill guys.&#8221;</p>
<p>Carter added, &#8220;Bill Romanowski &#8211; he told me he was going to take me out before the game, warm-ups. No problem. [He said,] &#8216;I&#8217;m gonna end your career, Carter.&#8217; No problem. &#8220;I put a little change on his head before the game. Protect myself. Protect my family. That&#8217;s the league that I grew up in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bill Romanowski is a Pro Bowl linebacker who was with the <a href="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/den/denver-broncos">Denver Broncos</a> at the time.</p>
<p>When asked if Carter was the only player to create bounties, he replied, &#8220;Hell, no. Listen, on the football field, you only got certain protection, and your teammates are part of that protection. It&#8217;s built in, and if I&#8217;m playing a certain position where I can&#8217;t protect myself &#8211; how can the quarterback protect himself? But for his teammates to stand up and do something, there are certain positions you can&#8217;t protect yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But you have to realize the league we grew up in, the bounty was based on protection, or a big hit, excitement, or for helping your team win. It wasn&#8217;t to maim or hurt the dude,&#8221; said Carter, who retired from the NFL following the 2002 season.&#8221;</p>
<p>The big question here is this: The subject of bounties in the NFL is very toxic right now, so why would a player want to associate himself with the practice of offering bounties? It seems the best course of action would be to keep your trap shut. Carter is on television every Sunday and on various ESPN broadcasts several times a week throughout the NFL pre-season, regular season, and playoffs. Is he really wanting for attention in the off season so badly that he&#8217;ll talk about anything to get in the news? This was a really poor decision by Cris Carter, especially when there are Hall of Fame votes at risk.</p>
<p>Cris Carter has been a Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist for the past five years. It will be interesting to see if these statements affect the Hall of Fame voting. For many years has been a great ambassador of the sport of American Football by displaying outstanding character and expert analysis. It would be a shame to see his reputation tarnished.</p>
<p>How do you believe this will affect Carter&#8217;s ability to enter the Hall of Fame? Should have kept quiet about offering bounties?</p>
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		<title>Goodell Deals Heavy Penalties to Saints Players</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Ellis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell showed no mercy to the New Orleans Saints coaches and management and he is showing no mercy to the Saints players. He has finally come to a decision on the fate of Saints players who were involved in a cash-for-hits bounty system and these are some of the heaviest penalties in [...]</p><p><a href="http://gmenhq.com/2012/05/02/goodell-deals-heavy-penalties-to-saints-players/">Goodell Deals Heavy Penalties to Saints Players</a> - <a href="http://gmenhq.com">GMEN HQ</a> - <a href="http://gmenhq.com">GMEN HQ - A NY Giants Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_10630" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 195px"><a href="http://gmenhq.com/2012/05/02/goodell-deals-heavy-penalties-to-saints-players/images/" rel="attachment wp-att-10630"><img class="size-full wp-image-10630 " src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/31/files/2012/05/images.jpg" alt="Jonathan Vilma" width="185" height="272" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Jonathan Vilma</p></div>
<p>NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell showed no mercy to the New Orleans Saints coaches and management and he is showing no mercy to the Saints players. He has finally come to a decision on the fate of Saints players who were involved in a cash-for-hits bounty system and these are some of the heaviest penalties in NFL history. Here are the penalties and the players who received them:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>LB <a href="http://www.nfl.com/player/jonathanvilma/2505973/profile">Jonathan Vilma</a>:</strong> Suspended for all of 2012 without pay. This is effective immediately and runs through the playoffs and the Super Bowl. It is reported that Vilma placed $10,000 cash on the table in the team’s meeting room and said he would pay anyone who knocked Brett Favre out of the NFC Championship Game in January of 2010.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>DL <a href="http://www.nfl.com/player/anthonyhargrove/2505952/profile">Anthony Hargrove</a>:</strong> Eight-game suspension without pay. The NFL said that he targeted Favre in the NFC Championship Game. The NFL says, “Hargrove also actively obstructed the league’s 2010 investigation into the program by being untruthful to investigators.” Hargrove later confessed to his role in the bounty program. Hargrove is now with the Packers.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>DE <a href="http://www.nfl.com/player/willsmith/2506098/profile">Will Smith</a>:</strong> Four-game suspension without pay. Smith helped to create the bounty program with former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>LB <a href="http://www.nfl.com/player/scottfujita/2505128/profile">Scott Fujita</a>:</strong> Three-game suspension without pay. He participated in the bounty program when he played for the team. Fujita is now with the Browns.</p>
<p>In the statement from the NFL Roger Goodell stated, “It is the obligation of everyone, including the players on the field, to ensure that rules designed to promote player safety, fair play, and the integrity of the game are adhered to and effectively and consistently enforced. Respect for the men that play the game starts with the way players conduct themselves with each other on the field.”</p>
<p>Goodell also stated, &#8220;In assessing player discipline, I focused on players who were in leadership positions at the Saints; contributed a particularly large sum of money toward the program; specifically contributed to a bounty on an opposing player; demonstrated a clear intent to participate in a program that potentially injured opposing players; sought rewards for doing so; and/or obstructed the 2010 investigation.&#8221;</p>
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